August 10, 2014
Why Marvel Isn't Doing A Female-Led Movie (yet)

therealsporktheorc:

ladysparklefists:

Spoiler alert: the answer is sexism. But let’s look at the alternatives. Again and again. Every time a female-led Marvel movie is mentioned, these same tired lines get dragged up.

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It’s all about timing.

I seriously am not even sure what this means, but Kevin Feige…

Name 3 female marvel superheroes that are as well known as iron man, captain America, and hulk. It’s not sexism it’s that there are just more well known male comic book heroes than female. The only female superhero that is known by most of the population is wonder woman and she isn’t Marvel. Marvel could do a she hulk movie because she is relatively known by most people, but then you probably would complain that they maid a movie with a female lead that is based off of a male character.

Yes, because Starlord, Groot, Ant-Man, and Dr. Fucking Strange are so much that more well-known than Black Widow. Seriously, fuck right off with this nonsense.

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August 10, 2014
Why Marvel Isn’t Doing A Female-Led Movie (yet)

ladysparklefists:

Spoiler alert: the answer is sexism. But let’s look at the alternatives. Again and again. Every time a female-led Marvel movie is mentioned, these same tired lines get dragged up.

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It’s all about timing.

I seriously am not even sure what this means, but Kevin Feige says it a lot. Presumably if you release a female-led movie in the wrong moon-cycle, you risk the wrath of the gods? But more often it’s…

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The movies are all planned out. There’s a creative vision to be followed, an extra movie can’t just be shoved in.

This is weird, because other movie studios are in charge of their own schedule. Are we seriously supposed to accept “We aren’t ignoring women now, we’ve been ignoring them this whole time!”? That’s not an excuse! That’s basically the opposite of an excuse! There is no “timing” or “planning” reason Marvel couldn’t have chosen Captain Marvel, instead of Guardians of the Galaxy, and Ant-Man And The Wasp, instead of Ant-Man And Older Ant-Man.

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A female-led film would be a big risk.

Guardians of the Galaxy. I’m serious. You can’t tell me a Black Widow movie, with an established character played by a box-office-draw actress, and a good advertising campaign, is more of a risk than “those dudes no one’s ever heard of, in space, with two fully-CGI characters, fronted by That Parks And Rec Dude Who Used To Be Chubby”.

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And it’d be soooo expensive. Scarlett Johansson would want lots of money, and Marvel is really cheap with its acting talent.

Marvel has had a tradition of casting relative unknowns in major roles, presumably because it’s easier to get them to sign multi-picture contracts and not have to drive dump-trucks full of money up to their houses. Robert Downey Jr is the exception, he was paid $50 million for Avengers, while Scarlett Johansson took home one-tenth that amount, and Chrises Hemsworth and Evans got even less. (I say “even less”, these numbers are ridiculous!) Even if they had to pay Johansson $25 million, Guardians opened at almost $100 million for its first weekend. Plus, a Widow movie, probably a spy-action thriller type deal, is going to be much cheaper to make than the likes of Avengers or Guardians. They’ll need a couple of million for a Nick Fury and one other Avenger (probably Hawkeye), they’ll probably cast one other big name, and then it’ll be all unknown Russian actors. 

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Plus, Scarlett Johansson doesn’t even want to do it.

I dunno. I haven’t spoken with her in person on this topic. But she seems as up for it as any of the others do. For a studio that doesn’t want to pay them much, they sure have a bunch of enthusiastic actors! Anyway, Johansson has said she’s up for it, if they wanted her and there was a good script. 
http://screenrant.com/scarlett-johansson-talks-black-widow-solo-film/

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Anyway, Black Widow was a huge part of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. That’s practically like having her own movie!

Seriously, people say this. For maybe a year and a half, Kevin Feige’s go-to answer for “can has woman movie pls?” was “Wait for Captain America 2, wink wink!”. A normal person would interpret this as “We’re setting up a Widow movie to spin off from Cap 2.” but apparently he meant “Look, she gets to have a decent part in a properly dude-fronted movie. Compromise!” No. In case it’s not clear, having a good female character in a movie that takes place in a world closely resembling our own, where women make up a slight majority of the population, is a baseline!! It would be outrageous NOT to have an important female character! As it turns out, the heroes in Cap 2 are Cap, two women and two black guys, so that’s pretty cool. But it’s still Cap’s movie. How is it that grown-ups cannot understand that being allowed play with someone else’s toy is NOT THE SAME as owning your own toy?!

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A new property like Captain Marvel would be too risky. No one knows who she is.

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. I am really glad that they made Guardians. Not because it’s perfect (it’s not), not because it’s funny (it is), but because it is undeniable proof that they will gamble on anything, provided it doesn’t upset their Straight White Male Protagonist (preferably played by a buff blonde guy called Chris) streak. Marvel are currently on track to put out TEN WHOLE MOVIES where the main character is a white guy played by a buff Chris before it puts out a single movie fronted by a woman or someone who isn’t white. (It has yet to even feature a significant character who is both a woman and not-Caucasian, and only one major actress isn’t white. She’s a green-skinned alien, though, not a black chick.) Anyway, now that they’ve made Guardians and introduced the Kree, Captain Marvel would be the perfect link between the Avengers and the Guardians.

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Marvel is better than DC! Marvel already has so many awesome female characters. It’s mean-spirited to hate on them when they’re doing better than the other studios.

I think there’s a pretty good chance Marvel gets more ragging on this because (a) they seem like they should know better, while DC seems to mess a lot of stuff up, and (b) more women watch Marvel movies, so there are more women to complain. Guardians had an audience of 44% women. But anyway, just because someone else is worse doesn’t make you good. Marvel has proven that it is capable of delivering well-rounded, interesting, important female characters … and then sidelining them and refusing to give them their own movie. We’re halfway there, that’s why it’s important to keep pushing!

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Ugh, you’re being so PC. Do we have to have quotas now? It’s just some sci-fi movies! Don’t take it so seriously. 

(This isn’t really an excuse, it’s an attempt to make the conversation go away.) Um, no. I find it hard to believe that anyone following this stuff was not themselves influenced as a child by sci fi or fantasy or comic books. I do find it easy to believe that anyone saying that always found it really easy to find lots of cool characters who looked like them, to pretend to be and to look up to. No, it’s not the biggest deal ever. But it sucks, if you’re an eight year old girl, and you want to play Avengers and you ALWAYS have to be Black Widow even though she’s kinda boring to play and you’d much rather shoot lightning or fly. Or there’s two girls, so one of them gets to be an Avenger and the other one has to be a girlfriend and get rescued all the time. Also, we’re not supposed to take it seriously that Wasp seems to have been written out or maybe fridged, even though she’s a founding Avenger and named the team, but any deviation from white-maleness has fanboys bursting in from every direction with the battle cry of “But in the comics….!” Anyway, to hell with hypothetical 8-year-olds. _I_ want this. Marvel are growing a female audience, they should step up.

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(Bonus round: Black Panther is too complicated. Wakanda would be difficult to explain or show.

(a) Guardians of the Galaxy.
(b) Use a real African country instead.

(c) Just say Wakanda is a little-known region of, I dunno, Tanzania. Tanzania’s pretty big, and the MCU is clearly in a slightly different universe than ours, what with the aliens.
(d) Guardians of the Galaxy was in imaginary space-land, and that looked pretty good. Probably we could manage Africa.

(e) Not that we’d have to spend much time there, if we didn’t want to. T’challa could always show up in New York or whatever. He could be an exile. Or looking for something to save his people. If Tony Stark creates Ultron and Donald Blake was Jane’s ex and Bucky and Natasha didn’t train together, then apparently we’re allowed make changes to the comic mythology.

(f) Have you even SEEN Black Panther?! He’s awesome!)

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It’s sexism. Marvel doesn’t want to do a female-led movie (or one led by a black guy). And they do not have a good reason to provide us. And that’s not good enough.

Awesome post. Also want to point out that a Black Widow & Hawkeye movie NEGATES the idea of a solo movie and essentially turns the movie into a female character NEEDING a male even in the damn title to do well. Love Hawkeye, but he can fuck right off in this instance. Black Widow needs to be the sole name on the marquee.

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June 23, 2014
"You love Captain America? Well, you know what Captain America would never do? Go online anonymously and shit on a girl for having an opinion."

Brian Michael Bendis On Comics, Online Sexism — Vulture (via kellysue)

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April 13, 2014

thebicker:

newwavefeminism:

infernumequinomin:

nicolas-christ:

Pantene Philippines #whipit Labels against women

This is so relevant it’s not even funny.

That vanity issue. Telling they’re worthless if they don’t look dolled up, but are shallow if they doll themselves up.

They’ve done studies that prove this is absolutely true (not that any of you doubted it). Sheryl Sandberg wrote about it a lot in Lean In, in the context of how bosses and job applicants are perceived. It’s known as the Heidi/Howard experiment. A man and a woman with equal accomplishments are viewed completely differently. Women are viewed as either nice or competent - not both. 

(Source: spoopylonqu, via cognitivedissonance)

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April 10, 2014
"No matter how obvious Black Widow’s eventual solo stardom may seem to those who look at the evidence found in “Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” there will still be those unable to recognize the character’s potential just because they can’t see past Johansson’s pretty face. Those people are going to have a hard time with “The Winter Soldier,” a film with three “pretty faces” all on board to kick ass and not be a damsel in distress/love interest/set decoration. Anyone who refuses to see the immense contributions Maria Hill, Agent 13 and Black Widow make to this film will find their viewing riddled with as many holes as Nick Fury’s SUV. These women cannot be ignored, and their place in these films will age significantly better than the reviews of film critics more concerned with Natasha’s makeup routine than her inner conflicts."

— Brett White (Comicbookresources)

(Source: womeninmarvel)

April 2, 2014
Another character that kind of has a fucked up premise

banrions:

youngbadmanbrown:

is Wonder Woman.

Imagine you’re raised in this utopian, women only warrior society (this part isn’t fucked up) and you’re taught all about how outside of your society which is magically shielded by super-science/magic

there lies “man’s world.”

Man’s…

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March 18, 2014
DC Hits The Jackpot in June with Red Hood and the Outlaws

silvanoir:

theimancameron:

dcwomenkickingass:

Ed Benes on cover art? CHECK!

Starfire with her teeniest top? CHECK!

Starfire front and center leaning on a car in a “sexy” pose? CHECK!

Starfire appearing to “hot” in the tropic sun while her male partners are fully clothed?…

Actually, I am pretty sure that you’re the one showing your ass here.

First of all, this isn’t even the Bombshell cover. Those covers are actually made in a retro style; it’s quite clear this is not. Secondly, even if this was the Bombshell cover, it is EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC and just because you like something (RH&O) doesn’t mean it invalidates all forms of criticism against it.

Thirdly, DCWKA actually notes that Lobdell is back on the book; another disconcerting fact given his poor track record in writing well and you know, seeing as he harassed a fellow panel member at a con simply because she was a woman (gee, doesn’t that just show how much he respects actual living women, not even fictional ladies!)

Fourthly, this issue isn’t about “haters” of the book, for fuck’s sake (and considering I love Jason Todd and would want something he’s in to succeed but this book has been garbage for AWHILE, not to mention the problematic issues of sexism).

The complaints about the book have to do with it and this cover being sexist, plain and simple. So, trying to defend it on grounds of “haters gonna hate” is fucking ridiculous and derailing.

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January 28, 2014
Comicbook Characters That Apparently Warranted A Movie More Than Wonder Woman

espanolbot:

Wonder Woman stands along with Batman and Superman as one of the original big names of superhero comics. Surviving Nazis, Greek Gods and deadly bee weapons, she oddly hasn’t been able to escape to the big screen like many of her costumed compatriots.

With Gal Gadot signed up to a three picture deal (mind they didn’t say whether any of these films would actually STAR Wonder Woman) I thought that it would be interesting to run down some live-action comicbook characters that have managed to get to the big screen before the first lady of superheroes.

Prepare to be shocked and amazed!

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Howard the Duck is apparently less tricky than Wonder Woman. Hmmmm. I wonder why that is… 

January 18, 2014
Wonder Woman Will Most Likely Pass Her 75th Anniversary in Comics without a Planned Movie

dcwomenkickingass:

In case you missed it last night Warner Bros. announced that the Man of Steel sequel currently unnamed but commonly referred to as “Batman vs. Superman” has hit a snag. The film will now debut in May 6, 2016 almost a year after its planned debut of July 17, 2015. No word yet on how the…

December 17, 2013
"DINI: “That’s the thing, you know I hate being Mr. Sour Grapes here, but I’ll just lay it on the line: that’s the thing that got us cancelled on Tower Prep, honest-to-God was, like, ‘we need boys, but we need girls right there, right one step behind the boys’—this is the network talking—’one step behind the boys, not as smart as the boys, not as interesting as the boys, but right there.’ And then we began writing stories that got into the two girls’ back stories, and they were really interesting. And suddenly we had families and girls watching, and girls really became a big part of our audience, in sort of like they picked up that Harry Potter type of serialized way, which is what The Batman and [indistinct]’s really gonna kill. But, the Cartoon Network was saying, ‘F***, no, we want the boys’ action, it’s boys’ action, this goofy boy humor we’ve gotta get that in there. And we can’t—’ and I’d say, but look at the numbers, we’ve got parents watching, with the families, and then when you break it down—’Yeah, but the—so many—we’ve got too many girls. We need more boys.’”

SMITH: “That’s heart-breaking.”

DINI: “And then that’s why they cancelled us, and they put on a show called Level Up, which is, you know, goofy nerds fighting CG monsters. It’s like, ‘We don’t want the girls because the girls won’t buy toys.’ We had a whole… we had a whole, a merchandise line for Tower Prep that they s***canned before it ever got off the launching pad, because it’s like, ‘Boys, boys, boys. Boys buy the little spinny tops, they but the action figures, girls buy princesses, we’re not selling princesses.’”"

paul dini on the cancellation of Young Justice

the entertainment industry is run by male pricks with misogyny and shit for brains

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One of many good responses to when people say the following:

  • "Well if you’re so mad, why don’t you go make your own?"
  • "Well girls only want to see boys on their shows too, girls hate girls too."
  • "It’s just business, that’s just the way it is."

Even when a man wants to put more female content into a show, he are still told no by network executives. What fucking chance do female creators have? Network executives are not gods. They are not mystical oracles with a finger on the pulse of the nation.  They aren’t people who find joy in creativity or innovation.  (If anything, they are soulless demons with no respect for you, the viewer.  They respect no one except the almighty $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.) And they control your entertainment.

Learn to discern!

(via cherishedsaulie)

I don’t want to hear a single nother thing from folks going ‘that’s just the way it is”

Instead of actively getting into their newly found fanbase, they chose to shut down an entire franchise based solely on the fact that girls touched it.

This is sexism. This is misogyny.

This is the hatred of all things feminine.

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